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Post by Barbs on Mon 27 Jun 2016 - 8:04



This is the little hire car.  It looks cute but don't think I would buy one.  The start/stop is not something I like, feels like I keep stalling it.  Smile  I know DarrenJ said it can be turned off but to be honest I will only have it till Wednesday.  This is Morrison's car park in Doncaster on a Saturday afternoon, wonder how long this will stay open. But a good place for Synchronized roof opening lol
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Post by tabascouk on Mon 27 Jun 2016 - 18:57

I was hoping my garageman would give me this as a hire car when my aygo was poorly. Alas it was a no go.


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Post by tabascouk on Mon 27 Jun 2016 - 18:59

But he specialises in taking care of beauties like that I know my wind bat bug is in safe hands!!

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Post by colin565 on Mon 27 Jun 2016 - 20:03

Barbs and the rest of us will have to get used to start stop tech in all future made cars as its legislation now.

To me it just adds wear to the engine with al that start stopping, and does not save very much fuel, if at all.

Where drivers do get angry and I have seen it on quite a number of car websites, is that it cannot be switched off permanently, as the ECO switch is set to enable start stop, so the driver has to physically switch it off each journey.

In fact angry American drivers of the new BMW 3 series got BMW to change the ECO button so it could be set to start either with start stop off, or start stop on, which is more sensible giving drivers a better option.
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Post by ElNumbre on Tue 28 Jun 2016 - 23:02

I was looking at the Twingo before I rediscovered the Wind, good honest little French cars.

I suspect with the appropriate diagnostic tools, the stop/start could be disabled permanently, but the better half has it on her Focus, and we've quickly got used to it.  I had it on a loan Golf in the winter and hated it because I came out of work, immediately got stuck in a motorway tailback, and the damn car wouldn't warm up because the engine would keep stopping. It wasn't until I got home and found the off switch.

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Post by Barbs on Tue 28 Jun 2016 - 23:09

As it's a hire car I am sitting on the clutch if it's short term, if the lights have just changed it's fingers crossed.
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Post by colin565 on Tue 28 Jun 2016 - 23:13

Why I do not like start stop other than wear, is the fact that my first cars decades ago were Fords and they all had 'start stop'. What you say?

They stopped with a splutter at road junctions due to damp cold engines Very Happy
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Post by Barbs on Tue 28 Jun 2016 - 23:26

We must be a similar age I am worrying will it start....
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Post by Bullyboy on Wed 29 Jun 2016 - 21:47

I have start stop in my qashqai and its painful.  You have to turn it off every time you start the car.  Apparently it's the law that it has to be enabled.  Bah
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Post by LukeC on Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 14:03

Bullyboy wrote:I have start stop in my qashqai and its painful.  You have to turn it off every time you start the car.  Apparently it's the law that it has to be enabled.  Bah

Take it to a dodgy garage

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Post by Barbs on Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 18:29

Bye bye hire car. Tomorrow I get my Wind back. Can't believe how much I have missed him.
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Post by colin565 on Thu 30 Jun 2016 - 21:56

Bullyboy wrote:I have start stop in my qashqai and its painful.  You have to turn it off every time you start the car.  Apparently it's the law that it has to be enabled.  Bah

A lot of owners are taking things into their own hands and modifying the start stiop so it does not work.

Example1: Smart Fortwo MHD model is the only Smart car with start stop, and a member of a smart website has designed a simple add on circuit board to the ECO button (£30) that switches off start stop by itself ever journey. So it never is on.

Example2: Range rover Evoque (auto only) can disable start stop by disconnecting a small battery that works start stop circuit in the engine compartment. Manual does not have this battery.

Example3: BMW 3 series start stop software has now has been changed so you can decide if you want start stop dissabled for good, or not. This was due to angry USA drivers wanting it disconnected. BMW have now changed the software for their European series 3  cars as well.

All this can be read on car websites where owners are very angry at being forced to accept start stop due to meeting emissions, and are fighting back to have it switched off for good.

I personally hate start stop due to engine wear, and it wil not be the initial owners that wil have problems, but instead it will be secondhand owners three or more years down the line when they have trouble with worn out engines and worn out main battery.
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Post by Barbs on Fri 1 Jul 2016 - 8:15

My little boy is back, so happy I have Wind. Lol.
Best thing was when we opened the garage the sun came out and he looked so handsome sat there. The plan now is to get a little car to do the 10 miles a day I do to work, Anyone know about C1 or Aygo?
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Post by colin565 on Fri 1 Jul 2016 - 20:49

We had a new C1 way back on a 2006 plate, and was a cheap runaround before we got a Colt (dreary Euro box with massive deprecion) and then got our latest 451 Smart Fortwo.

The C1 ran well enough for three years that we owned it, no faults at all as it was based on the same Japanese build quality of the Aygo (same car, same engine, slightly different body panels), but interior was cheap and plain, ride was a bit rough, not great for long runs, but good for wifes short journey to work each day. It did hold its value, unlike the Colt.

The shape of both C1 and Agyo changed in 2010 onwards, not sure for the better as not driven it, but has same well running engine, and cheap insurance.
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Post by Barbs on Fri 1 Jul 2016 - 20:59

Thanks Col it will only be short runs into a dirty environment so will have a look at both.
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Post by ElNumbre on Fri 1 Jul 2016 - 21:02

Why don't you look at a Twizy?  Very Happy  Jet wash inside and out.

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Post by Barbs on Fri 1 Jul 2016 - 22:15

Simple answer.... They are awful!
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Post by ElNumbre on Tue 19 Jul 2016 - 14:24

Happened upon this Fifth Gear Youtube video presented by Tiff Needles comparing a Renault Megane not using, and then using Stop/Start technology.


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