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Post by Barbs on Sat 23 Apr 2016 - 13:19

Anyone had a problem with the roof.

just took my roof of and it has come up with a fault check roof and a spanner.

Took it off and back on a couple of times but fault still there.  Anyone around for advice?
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Re: Roof problem

Post by Barbs on Sat 23 Apr 2016 - 16:45

Right the story of what happened...

I un latched the roof the windows dropped about an inch and the spanner came on. Pressed the button again roof went down but stopped at 1 red square on the dash. Closed the roof and it stopped again with one red square and beeped with the spanner again. Did it a few more times nothing seemed to let it finish its opening cycle. Because it hadn't finished the cycle I couldn't even open the boot. Opened and closed the windows a couple of times holding the button down for 30 seconds and hey presto the roof fully shut. We were going out so instead of topless it was roof on motoring. Just got back and tried it again and it seems fine. So panic over for now.
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Re: Roof problem

Post by colin565 on Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 0:07

THE EASY SOLUTION...sounds like an out of sequence fault.
Can be windows out of sequence, or roof controller out of sequence, or both, as first  affects the second.

As long as 'check roof' light does not come on, which is a go to dealer fault, you can try this...... 

Roof reset.....
You can reboot the roof sequence by disconnecting the battery, leave off for a few minutes and reconnecting, this should reset roof controller sequence.

Windows reset...
Then reinitalise windows full up and down positions, before trying roof. That should sort it out.

"Window reinitalising....do each window in turn.

Window fails to close and/or battery disconnected
The system has to be reinitialised:
With the door closed and the ignition
switched on,
– Raise the window fully and keep the
button pressed for 2 seconds after it
has stopped moving.
– Lower the window fully and keep the
button pressed for 2 seconds after it
has stopped moving"


THE EXPENSIVE SOLUTION...
Hope that helps, as that was the easy solution, if it is the solution, if not, then you have sensor or microswitch fault somewhere. If this is the case then you need to read codes on a OBII reader connected to your diagnostic plug and it may tell the fault code to home in on the faulty item. Other than that its a dealer issue, at cost.
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Re: Roof problem

Post by Barbs on Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 8:23

Will try the roof again today but one thing I need to do is to put the roof key in the glove compartment. It is in the boot which when I had the problem yesterday I couldn't get in.
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Re: Roof problem

Post by colin565 on Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 11:05

Barbs wrote:Will try the roof again today but one thing I need to do is to put the roof key in the glove compartment. It is in the boot which when I had the problem yesterday I couldn't get in.


DOH!  lol!


I have my loose bits and pieces packed away behind drivers seat in a bag, including roof key.

Anyway, Good luck with the roof, keep us informed Wink
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Post by Barbs on Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 18:23

Roof tested again today and it's fine. Roof tool in glove box.

Bad news another puncture. Spare on and tyre ordered. Grrrrrr
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Re: Roof problem

Post by colin565 on Sun 24 Apr 2016 - 18:28

So just a glitch I imagine, it can happen.
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Re: Roof problem

Post by Barbs on Mon 25 Apr 2016 - 19:38

Normal service now resumed new tyre on
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Re: Roof problem

Post by Barbs on Thu 5 May 2016 - 18:02

Normal service not resumed and the Roof would not reset had to resort to the key. Think it's a sensor they can't get it on the computer till Monday. I think it's dirt but not sure where the sensor is or indeed what one would look like. If anyone knows can you please post a picture.
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Re: Roof problem

Post by Barbs on Sat 7 May 2016 - 16:08

Car is booked into the garage on Monday they will connect it to the computer and see if it shows any faults.  I will tell them what Col has mentioned about disconnecting the battery to see if that does a reset.  Will report back.
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Post by Barbs on Sat 7 May 2016 - 18:06

Am I better getting them to test the car on the computer first or disconnecting the battery.

If there is a problem the diagnostics should pick it up. If the battery reset doesn't work I might have a report of the fault, if they can find a fault something to look at. Thinking what if the battery test option only sorts it in the short term. Hope that makes sense
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Re: Roof problem

Post by Araf on Sat 7 May 2016 - 19:39

You're talking to yourself. Wink

I had a quick look today, and it looks like there are only two sensors.  Any chance one of them could be a little dirty?  Can you try cleaning the face of them with a damp cotton bud?

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Re: Roof problem

Post by Barbs on Sat 7 May 2016 - 20:47

Lots of chance of them being dirty but where are they and what to they look like?
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Re: Roof problem

Post by Araf on Sat 7 May 2016 - 21:48

Little black blocks, with electric leads coming out of them.  Make sure all of the leads are plugged in properly too. Smile

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Re: Roof problem

Post by colin565 on Sat 7 May 2016 - 23:25

One thing that the Wind has over all the other electrical roofed cars is simplicity.

If it does break down, the emergency key winds the boot lid up and down and you can rotate the roof piece in by hand. So you are not going to get stuck with roof open, like a lot of two piece or three piece metal folding roofs.

As for how it actually works well as Araf says there are sensors/microswitches to work out where the moving bits are as it operates. Thats as much as I know, without electrical wiring diagrams its guess work. Pity we do not have them.

Going by looking at other convertible car websites, most electrical/hydraulic roofed cars do not get problems till year six onwards due to wear on components or even the lack of use seizes them up (especially if you do not use occasionally in Winter), then by year nine its common place. We wait and see how the Wind performs.

This is the first mention of a owner having roof problems on the Wind, so we are doing well, but unfortunate for the Barbs.
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Post by Barbs on Sat 7 May 2016 - 23:38

I think I bought that on Friday but it is in garage speak. I had a VAT inspection at work so didn't get the chance to check it out properly but it was described as a workshop manual. Sadly it is on my computer at work it came In a VMware format.
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Post by colin565 on Sat 7 May 2016 - 23:39

So there is a on-line workshop manual for the Wind  you can buy, what is the link please?
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Post by Barbs on Sat 7 May 2016 - 23:44

Pm your email address
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Post by colin565 on Sat 7 May 2016 - 23:46

How do I send a PM?, ok found it. Its that blue button on the left which says PM, doh!  Very Happy

Edit...PM now sent to you.
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Post by Barbs on Sat 7 May 2016 - 23:53

Easymauals.co.uk.
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Post by Barbs on Sun 8 May 2016 - 12:08

H Col did you get the email?
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Re: Roof problem

Post by colin565 on Sun 8 May 2016 - 16:11

Barbs wrote:H Col did you get the email?

Yeh, I got mail, Cheers Colin


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Post by Barbs on Sun 8 May 2016 - 16:43

I can check tomorrow when I have more time. I will download it onto a usb then I can access it at home.
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Post by Araf on Sun 8 May 2016 - 16:56

Barbs wrote:I can check tomorrow when I have more time. I will download it onto a usb then I can access it at home.

Why not download to lots of USB sticks, and mitigate your costs?  I'd take one. Smile

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Re: Roof problem

Post by Barbs on Sun 8 May 2016 - 17:23

Araf... Yours will be delivered on Friday that was the plan anyway.  Friday was a hectic day so only got 5 minutes with it and I was looking for the roof problem. I will try and download it tomorrow.  The IT people spent a bit of time fiddling around with it to make it look like a proper manual.
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Post by colin565 on Sun 8 May 2016 - 17:29

Araf wrote:
Barbs wrote:I can check tomorrow when I have more time. I will download it onto a usb then I can access it at home.

Why not download to lots of USB sticks, and mitigate your costs?  I'd take one. Smile

I would also take one, especially if your IT has sorted it out to look like a proper manual. Thats sounds a lot better.

Please check it has wiring diagrams?
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Post by Barbs on Mon 9 May 2016 - 18:07

It takes 40mins to download. but will happily supply a copy. I think you still have to install VMware but I guess we will find that out when Araf tries his.

Roof is sorted.... They plugged the car into the computer and it said sunroof problem. In the manual or does refer to the back and top as sunroof. They got it to open and at the very back there are 2 slide bars these had got dirt stuck in them. They used a high pressure spray and then greased them with silicon grease. I can now go topless. And I have 2 new heroes
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Post by Barbs on Wed 11 May 2016 - 9:00

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Thought it might help if someone else has the same problem the arrows are pointing to where the dirt/dust had got stuck this was preventing the roof from completing the cycle. This is at the pivot point of the sunroof. Look at me I sound like I know what I am talking about.  Shocked The main thing is it is fixed, lol!
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Post by colin565 on Wed 11 May 2016 - 9:28

Well done. Thanks for the picture.

I assume this was the Renault garage that plugged into the diagnostic socket. Did they tell you the OBII code of the roof fault, it would be worth noting its fault number?

Anyway, that's another annual thing on the list of checks to do with my car  Very Happy

Wonder if this might end up as a common roof fault, we wait and see.
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Post by Barbs on Wed 11 May 2016 - 10:50

colin565 wrote:Well done. Thanks for the picture.

I assume this was the Renault garage that plugged into the diagnostic socket. Did they tell you the OBII code of the roof fault, it would be worth noting its fault number?

Anyway, that's another annual thing on the list of checks to do with my car  Very Happy

Wonder if this might end up as a common roof fault, we wait and see.
They are not a Renault garage, but they did plug it into the diagnostic socket.
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